Not sure sorry, these were my mother in laws. Chat gpt says the following about the fit:
Most people find:
* True to size if you have average-width feet.
* A little roomy in length, but the instep (top of the foot) can feel quite snug at first.
* The leather softens and stretches with wear, especially across the vamp (the part over the top of your foot), but they won’t stretch much in length.
Consider sizing down if:
* You’re between sizes.
* You have narrow feet.
* You prefer a snug, slip-on fit.
Stick with your usual size if:
* You have average or wider feet.
* You plan to wear socks with them.
* You don’t like your loafers feeling tight initially.
Raegan L
Aug 08 10:40AM
Abby P
Aug 08 10:42AM